The Entertainment
Channel: First of all, we loved “Lady
with a Fan.”
Picasso: Thank you. People seem to
be very excited by the painting, and the test scores have been great.
E.C.: What was it like painting “Lady
with a Fan”?
Picasso: Very, very exciting. I was
excited by the prospect of painting it and working with so many
exciting people, the paint people, the canvas stretcher . . .
E.C.: So it was a very exciting project for you.
Picasso: Yes, I was really excited.
Sometimes I was more excited, and sometimes I was less excited . . .
E.C.: But you were always excited?
Picasso: Oh, yes, always excited.
That’s a good way to put it.
E.C.: And the model?
Picasso: Oh, my God, I almost left
her out. That’s hilarious. I’ve so admired her posing through the
years and finally I got a chance to work with her. I actually loved
going to the studio every day.
E.C.: Tell us what she’s like.
Picasso: Oh, she’s so down-to-earth.
You would expect her to be aloof and distant, but she wasn’t like that
at all.
E.C.: Were there sparks?
Picasso: Oh, boy, this is a tough
interview! (Laughter) Actually we liked
each other a lot, but that’s as far as it went. I have a rule about
dating my models.
E.C.: We talked with her and she said, “Picasso was great to work
with. We laughed and laughed.” What did you laugh about? Any
anecdotes?
Picasso: Gee. Hmm. Oh, yeah. Once, I
told her I needed her to be nude. Well, you should have seen the look
on her face. Of course I told her immediately that I was just kidding.
E.C.: That’s hilarious.
Picasso: It was really, really
funny.
E.C.: “Lady with a Fan” is so different from the other work you’ve
been doing. Do you think your audience will accept it?
Picasso: Well, I really wanted to
flex some new muscles and I hope the public will go along with me.
E.C.: There are a lot of other pictures opening on the same day.
Matisse has “The Green Stripe,” and Vlaminck has a fine still-life.
Are you worried about the competition?
Picasso: Well, I’m sure Matisse’s
picture is very, very cute. And, basically, Vlaminck stinks.
E.C.: Whoa! Don’t hold back now—just
say what you think!
(Laughter)
E.C.: Pablo?
Picasso: Yes?
E.C.: Why a fan?
Picasso: Oh, boy, everyone asks me
that. I guess I didn’t want to call the picture “Lady with a Banana.”
No, I’m kidding.
E.C.: Oh, my god, that’s hilarious.
Picasso: No, seriously, the fan was
chosen because it is a symbol of femininity, because it balances the
picture compositionally, and because I posed her hand in the classic
religious position referencing Leonardo’s “Madonna of the Rocks,”
except I wanted her to be holding a secular object.
E.C.: Uh-huh. (Pause) What’s next for a
Pablo Picasso?
Picasso: Well, I would like to do
some less serious paintings. “Lady with a Fan” is actually quite a
profound picture, and I would like to stretch a bit and show that I
don’t just do one thing.
E.C.: Thank you, Pablo Picasso. (Turns to
camera) “Lady with a Fan” can be seen at the National Gallery
for the next one thousand or so years.
Pablo, could you just look into the camera and say, “Hi, I’m Pablo
Picasso, be sure to watch me on The Entertainment Channel!”
Picasso: Sure. Could I say hello to
Gertrude Stein?
* From The New Yorker, December 8, 2003, Shouts and Murmurs,
online at: http://www.newyorker.com/shouts/
content/?031208sh_shouts.
And the painting itself:
